Lakes & Parks Committee Minutes: March 14, 2018

Meeting called to order by Dave Patterson at 7:30 pm.

Members Present: Jim Conner, Tom Derrick, Eric Fox, Jill King, Alan Kohlhaas, George Lortz, Dave Patterson, Dave Ryberg, Gerald Young

Members Absent: Dan Beckman, Joe Stocker

Community Manager: Bruce Keller – Present

Board Liaison: Pat Hawkins – Present

Guests Present: Jeff Bittner.

Minutes from the January meeting were presented by Dave Patterson. Corrections required: None.

Motion to accept by: Eric Fox; Seconded by: Gerry Young. Vote count: for 7, against 0, abstain 0.

Guest Issues:

Jeff Bittner was present to listen and learn.

Chairman’s Report –

            A member of the committee was approached by a resident and questioned about possibly adding another species of fish in the lake, like perch. Several of us remembered when Aquatic Control recommended that we not alter the predator prey ratio in the lake and also that the perch probably wouldn’t last due to the lack of cold water year-round. Dave Ryberg will check and see what ATAC recommends.

Bruce recently had a conversation with the owner of Lot 2619, a vacant lot with 2, 36 inch culvert pipes that go under Alpine.  This is the spot where we spent nearly 30,000 dollars to repair two crushed pipes this past summer.  It is a major water course leading to our lake and it is imperative that we have access.

The owner lives across the street and is offering to give us the property if we give him the 15 feet of green space between his property and the lake.  His goal of course would be to build a dock on that property, all of which he would build and maintain.  Jared Ewbank has said we have no restrictions for selling or trading green space.  He also voiced a favorable opinion on this trade, as long as we put restrictions as to access on the green space we would trade.  The committee is not in favor of selling or trading the actual greenspace. Rather we feel that granting access through greenspace to a POA owned dock is preferable. This is similar to what we have done in other areas in the past.

Therefore, the committee requests a motion to trade the access to 15 feet of greenspace for use of a POA owned dock for the deed to lot 2619. Any and all improvements to the greenspace must be approved by the Architectural Committee, the Lakes and Parks Committee and the Board of Directors prior to being implemented. This agreement and the use of the greenspace and the POA dock will transfer with the property when it sells.     This motion passed 6 for and 2 against.


Afterwards and since then, there have been emails and discussions about this. I don’t think we really knew what greenspace was involved and where it was. I would like to hold off on the board’s vote until this can be clarified. I think we need to be aware of the size of dock to be put there and we need to ensure that there is access to the very end of the channel in case we need to get a boat through and do work on the ends of the culverts and surrounding areas.


Board Meeting Report: There was no meeting last month, so there was no report.

Fish & Game Club Comments: Jim Conner reported that the club has built about 10 structures for the lake. They have about 7 or 8 people who have approved installation of a structure under their dock.

            They have approved $500 to build more structures.

Lake Patrol Report: No more reports until the spring.

Lake Statistics Report: Gerry Young – No more reports until spring.

Small Lake Maintenance report: Bruce Keller – Nothing new to report.

Parks and Recreation Subcommittee/Task Force report –

Poker Golf OutingNo report. The event will probably occur towards the fall.

Marina Shelter Proposal – This project will be included in a brief survey that will accompany the ballot.

Fish limit rule – The following rule was presented by George, but based on input from the committee, I would like to postpone submission for a motion pending additional discussion by the committee.

When fishing on HVL lakes, a POA member is permitted one (1) limit per type of fish per day. If more than one POA member and/or guest is fishing from a single boat, only two (2) limits per type of fish per day are permitted for the entire boat.


Boat Safety Course Rule – The committee submits the following as a request for a motion:

Before a POA member can register a boat for the first time for use on the HVL main lake, they must attend a POA-sponsored Boat Safety Course conducted by a current member of the HVL POA Lake Patrol. Schedules for the Boat Safety Course may be obtained by contacting the HVL POA office.


Current/Active Business Updates –           

Sluice Gate Bridge Replacement: The new Sluice Gate Bridge has been installed. We are bidding for the actual decking and it will be either concrete or a trex-like material.

Boat size regulations: The task force met again and we decided that it would NOT be a good idea to change the length limits for boats.  They will remain at 20 feet for runabouts and 26 feet for pontoons.  Part of the problem we saw is that boat manufacturers have evolved hull design to fit the purpose of the boat and what the hull is designed to do.  This has made measuring from “front to back” very difficult. We decided it would be better to redefine what the “back” of a boat would be for measurement sake.  So, what we propose is a PROCEDURE:

To measure the length of a Runabout, we will measure from the bow of the boat (minus rub rail, etc.) to the “last point” on a boat where the hull turns up to turn out of the water.  This would NOT include swim platforms, jack plates (bolt on or molded in), motors, outdrives, etc.

To measure the length of a Pontoon, take the GREATER of the length of the outside pontoons OR the deck as the measurement of the boat.

A motion to approve this procedure was made by Dave Ryberg and Seconded by George. The motion passed 8 for and 0 against.

Deer cull update – The deer cull is complete for this year. 26 deer were removed.

New Business:

Marina Parking lot – There is still a need for gravel and grading to move the water away from the wall. Bruce will be checking into this and also putting parking blocks along the wall since the gravel is almost up to the top of the concrete. These will be the standard parking blocks, nothing like the beach parking lot. Work is also needed where Lakeview connects to the parking lot.

Community Manager’s Report:

The community manger had a significantly longer report than normal. Therefore, I am attaching his report, even though some items mentioned there were addressed above.

One item specifically involved the lowering of the lake the additional 2 feet as requested by the state. Those lakefront property owners that have open loop geothermal units may be impacted. We need to determine how they might be affected and what can be doe to protect their units.


Meeting was adjourned at 9:30 p.m. Thanks to everyone for their time and dedication.

Respectfully submitted by Dave Patterson, Chairman

Lakes 2018-03-14 Community Manager Report


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